Comments on: http://kinless.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/146/ Malice in wonderland. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:34:09 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Doeg http://kinless.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/146/#comment-199 Doeg Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:25:00 +0000 http://kinless.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/146/#comment-199 Heading out for the weekend, and don't want to leave on a negative note, so...<br />The Warrior Arms tree is awesome for both PvE and PvP!<br />I'm able to take PvE mobs with much less trouble.<br />In PvP, well, for example, Arms tree in general plus Second Wind in particular turned the tables on rogues. I don't ever remember a rogue running from me before this morning :P<br /><br />I have plenty of rage. My "problem" is often one of too much choice - so much rage, so many options... :) Heading out for the weekend, and don’t want to leave on a negative note, so…
The Warrior Arms tree is awesome for both PvE and PvP!
I’m able to take PvE mobs with much less trouble.
In PvP, well, for example, Arms tree in general plus Second Wind in particular turned the tables on rogues. I don’t ever remember a rogue running from me before this morning :P

I have plenty of rage. My “problem” is often one of too much choice – so much rage, so many options… :)

]]> By: Doeg http://kinless.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/146/#comment-198 Doeg Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:49:00 +0000 http://kinless.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/146/#comment-198 I may need to try some add-ons once things get ironed out with them.<br />I'd be curious how a mining add-on worked...<br />***<br />I tried post-patch PvP for the first time this morning, in AV. <br /><br />First off, I was dumped into an AV that was almost over; a Horde loss before I even reached the front. 1 HK, 20 bonus honor. w00t? bleah.<br /><br />The second was an all-O race that the Horde lost. And lost right from the cave, I would say.<br />(Rule of thumb for those who don't know: Horde loses no-D races.)<br /><br />The thing that I found most distressing was the impact that the new honor system had on the attitude of the AV group I chanced to be in. It was all-O, kill the NPCs, "make it fast" more important than "win". And some players were basically saying that it was about honor currency, fast. And who is to blame them? If I lose two matches in 30 minutes, or play a little D and (try to) win one match in 30 minutes, which is more honor? I don't know, but I'm guessing that the reasoning is that if the D stretches a win past 30 minutes (or if you stretch it out to 30 minutes - only to lose anyway) then it's more efficient to get it over fast, even if by doing so if you're basically conceding the loss. The 15 minute games give twice as much chance to grab honor by capping towers and graveyards and killing named AV mobs, too.<br /><br />To be fair, there was a lot of that "just get it over fast" attitude in AV pre-patch. But usually that sort of talk didn't start until things were looking bad. This morning "all-O, get it over fast, win or lose" was the prevailing attitude of the talkers in the cave before the gate even opened.<br /><br />The jury is still out, obviously. But I didn't like my initial taste of AV under the new "honor grind" system. Because if honor turns AV PvP just another grind for items against NPCs in what happens to be a PvP-enabled environment, then that will ruin one of my favorite parts of the game. I may need to try some add-ons once things get ironed out with them.
I’d be curious how a mining add-on worked…
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I tried post-patch PvP for the first time this morning, in AV.

First off, I was dumped into an AV that was almost over; a Horde loss before I even reached the front. 1 HK, 20 bonus honor. w00t? bleah.

The second was an all-O race that the Horde lost. And lost right from the cave, I would say.
(Rule of thumb for those who don’t know: Horde loses no-D races.)

The thing that I found most distressing was the impact that the new honor system had on the attitude of the AV group I chanced to be in. It was all-O, kill the NPCs, “make it fast” more important than “win”. And some players were basically saying that it was about honor currency, fast. And who is to blame them? If I lose two matches in 30 minutes, or play a little D and (try to) win one match in 30 minutes, which is more honor? I don’t know, but I’m guessing that the reasoning is that if the D stretches a win past 30 minutes (or if you stretch it out to 30 minutes – only to lose anyway) then it’s more efficient to get it over fast, even if by doing so if you’re basically conceding the loss. The 15 minute games give twice as much chance to grab honor by capping towers and graveyards and killing named AV mobs, too.

To be fair, there was a lot of that “just get it over fast” attitude in AV pre-patch. But usually that sort of talk didn’t start until things were looking bad. This morning “all-O, get it over fast, win or lose” was the prevailing attitude of the talkers in the cave before the gate even opened.

The jury is still out, obviously. But I didn’t like my initial taste of AV under the new “honor grind” system. Because if honor turns AV PvP just another grind for items against NPCs in what happens to be a PvP-enabled environment, then that will ruin one of my favorite parts of the game.

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